CITY COUNCIL

 

SPECIAL MEETING MINUTES

 

 

DATE OF MEETING:            November 12, 2003                           

                                                                                   

TIME OF MEETING:            3:30 P.M.               

 

PLACE OF MEETING:            RED BLUFF COUNCIL CHAMBERS, CITY HALL

 

The agenda for this meeting was posted pursuant to Resolution No. 28-1995

 

Councilmembers Present:      Forrest Flynn, Mayor Pro Tem

                                                Andy Houghton

Gregg Avilla

Larry Stevens

 

Councilmembers Absent:            Tere Hancock, Mayor (absent – excused)

                                                                                                                                               

Staff Present:                          Susan Price, City Manager

                                                Chuck Hayden, Planning Director

                                                Margaret Van Warmerdam, Finance Director

                                                Gary Antone, Director of Public Works

                                                J.D. Ellison, Building Official/Inspector

                                                Rob Gibbs, Director of Parks & Recreation

                                                Al Shamblin, Police Chief

                                                Rick Crabtree, City Attorney

                                                Gerry Gray, Division Chief

                                                Eileen Lampron, Accounting Technician

                                                Cheryl Smith, Deputy City Clerk

                                               

Mayor Pro Tem Flynn called the meeting to order at 3:30 p.m.

 

The Pledge of Allegiance was lead by Cheryl Brinkley and the assembly joined in.

 

 

CITIZENS COMMENTS

 

There were no comments.

 

RECONSIDERATION OF 2003/2004 HOME INVESTMENT PARTNERSHIPS (HOME) PROGRAM; RESOLUTION NO. 68-2003

 

Mayor Pro Tem Flynn stated that some information had become available after the decision was made to support the PAM Group project and at this point we are bring this back to listen to some testimony of additional information available.

 

Councilmember Avilla stated that it was at his suggestion to bring back before the City Council as he had some concerns and then later other information he felt the Council needed to hear and consider although that does not mean that he feels they are going to change their decision.  In no way did this have anything to do with City staff or the City Manager, it was at his request to Mayor Pro Tem Flynn to bring the issue back before the City Council.

 

Mayor Pro Tem stated that he also was under no pressure by any staff member.  This was a decision that we felt we needed to pursue this and see if we could get some answers to the questions we had.

 

Councilmember Avilla stated that a concern that needed to be cleared up with the work and who was going to do the work at the Kimball Road Project and the information was not available before the last meeting. 

 

J. D. Ellison, Building Official/Inspector, stated that he received a call around the first week of October and was told by the contractor out of the area that they had hired this person to come in and he would be showing up and asking for the plans to re-modify the structural of the trusses.  The person that showed up, was the person mentioned in his email.  He stated that he was the contractor for the job that he was going to be doing sub-contracting on it.

 

Councilmember Avilla questioned which job he was referring to.

 

Mr. Ellison stated that was the rehab project at Red Bluff Meadows.  The contractor stated that he was going to be responsible for it.  This contractor came in and took the plans and had he not been the one contacted to do the job, he would not have known to pickup the plans.  A message was received from WP that this contractor was no longer going to be working for them and that they would be staying with the regular plan check, which he took home over the weekend and completed the plan check.  The plan check was started the last week in October, was when everything was taken in.  The part that made him a little leery was that Ms. Grant stated that their contractor would be able to be finished with this one and go right on to the next one.  And the contractor that came in and picked up the truss information he felt there was no way this was going to get done.  The City currently has a house that he has been working on for 14-15 months and he finally called for a drywall inspection today.  Was worried about the City and their grant situation and the other people involved and getting the project done within the time line.

 

Councilmember Avilla questioned Mr. Hayden regarding the PAM Company and when they took title to Meadow Apartments, if it was this year.

 

Chuck Hayden, Planning Director, stated that he could not say with absolute certainty when the took control of the apartment complex.  His understanding was that the management company at one time was not taking the money that could have been reserved with the money rent.

 

Councilmember Avilla stated that he had gone in side the property and that he was not impressed.  His understanding is that we’re going to do this, we’ve got the money now and this facility is going to be made A number one, but at what point do they have the opportunity to complete the project, what kind of time span are we looking at, is it 1-year, 2-year, 3-years.

 

Mr. Hayden stated that he did not know, but they were asked to come in, as there were substandard housing issues, and his understanding is that there are federal funds have been applied for to rehab the apartment complex.

 

Mayor Pro Tem Flynn stated that he had a copy of a letter that Mr. Hayden wrote to PAM Company in September of 2000, would that be about the time that this began.

 

Mr. Hayden stated that if he recalled correctly he went and spoke to the apartment manager and she directed him to speak to PAM.  At some point PAM stepped in, he believed at the request of Rural Housing because the other management company was not taking care of the complex.

 

Mayor Pro Tem Flynn stated that they were lead to believe that they just recently had taken over, a Grant Deed shows February 18, 2003, but it looks like they were the operator since 2000.  Asked Ms. Grant or someone from her group to answer some of these questions.

 

Matt McGlynn, Attorney for PAM, stated that no body has told them the concerns of the City Council; they were here guessing ahead of time what the concerns could be.  He also requested copies of all staffing reports on Monday and at 11:00 a.m. this morning the copies were faxed to him, including Mr. Ellison’s letter and he was in court until 1:30 p.m. and so the soonest that he and his clients knew there was some concern about the contractor on the project at Red Bluff Meadows was at 1:30 p.m. today.  Apparently there is some contractor named “Chad” who is doing a completely horrible job at 1020 Washington Street, whom the City has no faith in.  He’s not the contractor on this job; WP Construction is the contractor that PAM has hired to do the work here.  Spoke with Shawn at WP was asked to find a local contractor, there was a question about the truss design, so they contacted this “Chad” and asked him to take to their truss calculations and take to his local supplier, who he believes was Meeks Building Supply.  Has not had a lot of time to review this, but this guy went in a represented that he was a contractor, he wasn’t a contractor they hadn’t hired him to do it and then he went off hunting and apparently he has a bad reputation, none of which is known by WP and this slows the project and the site plan checks down by a couple of weeks, but they are in a position that once they get the permits and finalize these plans to start the construction.  The construction was delayed because USDA, which is one of the primary sources of funding, needs to sign off on the project, but once they receive that they’re ready to move forward.  Had they known that the contractor was one of the main issues they would have had someone from WP at the meeting to respond to those concerns.  Mike Vetker of PAM is prepared to show the City Council some of the projects that PAM has completed.  PAM was contacted by USDA to take over the management of this project and PAM then went about to get funding.  They applied for HOME funds from the City in 2000 and were denied.  Plans were shown to the City Council showing the replacement of rooflines, new siding on the buildings, addition of a recreation room.  They are supervised and required to use these funds within the required timelines.

 

Councilmember Stevens questioned the timeline, he was under the impression that there may have been information was submitted to you and/or your client as early as Friday evening, also wanted ask Mr. Ellison what gave the City the opinion that this other contractor was the person in question that was going to be doing the work.

 

Mr. Ellison stated that he received a call either the 5th or 6th, he’d have to look at his phone log and see, from the out of town contractor and he stated that he had hired an out of town contractor and he stated that he had hired a subcontractor to come in and pickup the plans to change the truss design on the roofs.

 

Councilmember Stevens questioned if he gave the contractor’s name.

 

Mr. Ellison stated that he had not, the only person to come in was “Chad” and he would not of known if he wasn’t the contractor to get the plans, so that it why the plans were given to him to do. 

 

Mr. McGlynn stated that it was his understanding that WP was checking in with Virginia at the City and was told that yeah they were doing the process and JD was sitting back not doing anything because he was waiting to hear back from Chad.  To clarify something for Councilmember Stevens he received notification on Friday that there would be a special meeting on Wednesday and nobody had any knowledge that this was an issue, the first that he heard that this was an issue was 1:30 p.m. today in Mr. Ellison’s memo to Ms. Price regarding concerns of the contactor, so this got worked out Friday without any prompting from anybody on his part of on PAM’s part.

 

Councilmember Stevens stated that he had a question for Mr. McGlynn and want to pointed out that Pacific Communities came in a did their own talking, while Mr. McGlynn is representing the other company.  His question for Mr. McGlynn was at what point did you become the attorney for this project and how did they discover you. 

 

Mr. McGlynn stated that he contacted by Elva Grant on behalf of PAM Company to appear and put forth their position in terms of the City project.  It’s common for attorney’s to appear at City Council meetings and he became the attorney for the project approximately a week before the City Council meeting.

 

Mr. Hayden stated that he received a call from Elva Grant and she asked him for an attorney that he would recommend and he recommended Mr. McGlynn.

 

Councilmember Stevens stated that in three years time it seems to him there should have been a coat of paint, things as simply as window coverings were in disarray.  He didn’t see any evidence of any minimal effort to maintain or upgrade these buildings.  That is his concern because the City just went through a very major rehabilitation of another apartment complex at which residents had to be relocated.  To reiterate his concerns from last Tuesday’s meeting there are some very sever traffic issues there, we’re also crowding the same amount of people and cars into half the amount space and the Police Department can tell you that the closer people are to each other nerves get frayed more incidents occur, it’s just a bad situation because people are so close to each other.  The impact with traffic is an issue, off street parking is an issue, and he doesn’t see how they’re going to get all of this into 3 acres of property.

 

Mr. McGlynn stated that Mr. Vetker could answer those concerns.  Part of the concerns for Red Bluff Meadows is to get the funding and Elva Grant has been working to get this funding.

 

Councilmember Houghton questioned Mr. McGlynn about the rec room that Councilmember Stevens mentioned, was that for Red Bluff Meadows, so the additional one is for the old site.

 

Ms. Grant stated that the old site has a rec room, which will be added to and the new site will have it’s own rec room.

 

Councilmember Stevens stated that they turned the management of this complex in 2000 what are the expectations of a time line that she is supposed to get this done.  It seems like 3 years is sufficient time to get new drapes, or do a little parking lot fill.

 

Mike Vetker, PAM Development, stated that the decision by USDA in asking them to take over the complex, and obviously the complex was in dire need of rehab and the agreement they have with USDA is to do a major rehab not just a Band-Aid.  When PAM Development took this over, at the request of USDA when the project was in foreclosure, there was no money left in the reserves to work on this project.  Their plans for rehab will result in new siding, new roof, new parking lots, new appliances, and addition of rec room.

 

Councilmember Stevens questioned what the time line was and if they would have to displace any tenants to do.

 

Mr. Vetker stated that as soon as they get USDA approval they will start construction and that they have a 10-month construction schedule.  They should be able to work around the tenants by doing the exterior work first and then if there are any vacant units they will rehab those first and then move tenants into those units while the rehab work is being completed on their unit and of course give them the option of moving back to their original unit when the rehab is complete.

 

Councilmember Stevens questioned if there was going to be any off street parking on the new complex for visitor parking.

 

Mr. Vetker stated that there is some on site parking, has not had time to count the spaces.

 

Mr. Hayden stated that zoning standards require 2 parking spaces per apartment complex, if the Planning Commission or on appeal if the City Council wanted more parking they could require it as part of the Use Permit.  Standards require a number of additional parking spaces for car washing etc., so there are more spaces than 2 required for the apartment units, but would have to do the calculations to give the exact number.

 

Councilmember Avilla stated that he has a copy of the letter from September 20, 2000 from Mr. Hayden to Mr. Wilson, District Supervisor at PAM Company, he’s trying to get it into his head, but to classify something as a dangerous building, this was 3 years ago, what is our process.

 

Mr. Hayden stated that there is a uniform code for the abatement of dangerous housing, however the State in Title 25 basically ties our hands and makes it extremely difficult for the City to enforce the housing regulations as fast as he would like to see it happen.  From his perspective there is a lack of money to complete the project and he has been working with Elva Grant for months and that project is not going to get rehabbed with those funds.  Its very difficult to say fix it when you know there’s no money.

 

Councilmember Stevens questioned how many units are in Red Bluff Meadows and how many are currently occupied.

 

Mr. Vetker stated that there are 52 units and just 6 vacant units now.

 

Councilmember Stevens stated so basically you’re essentially full and there’s been resources coming in over 3 years what’s happened to these resources over these years.

 

Mr. Vetker stated that they’ve have tax issues, USDA foreclosure to deal with and that they have had to juggle as well as keep the project livable.

 

Mayor Pro Tem Flynn stated that they have not been able to get funding over the last three years for this rehabilitation project.

 

Mr. Vetker stated that was incorrect, they had received a loan from USDA for $776,000, they have received and allocation of tax credits, they have a current budget of $4,000,000 to put into this project and work will start as soon as USDA approval is received from Washington DC.

 

Councilmember Stevens stated that he would like to see what happens with Red Bluff Meadows and then see them next year and support them next year assuming that everything that they say is going to happens actually happens.

 

Councilmember Avilla stated that he was not going to beat up on someone that is trying to do the right thing, which is what is concern was.  He’s not clear on the company and who’s doing what.

 

Mr. Vetker stated that there are three different companies involved.  The Professional Apartment Management is the management company and it has been in business since 1969; a subsidiary company is PAM Development Incorporated and then PAM Construction builds the projects.  Ms. Grant is a consultant hired by PAM to obtain funding for various projects.

 

Mayor Pro Tem Flynn stated that his main concern is if PAM gets the HOME funding and it doesn’t materialize on the project it’s a black mark on the City of Red Bluff and this is where we are coming from.

 

Mr. Vetker stated that in the last 5-years they have not had an incident where they have not been successful on obtaining grants. 

 

Councilmember Stevens questioned who the subcontractors were going to be on the project.

 

Mr. Vetker stated that they would go through the Builders Exchange and put the project out to bid.  PAM Company employs 350 employees, plus they have the two subsidiary companies PAM Development and PAM Construction.

 

Councilmember stated that he looks at the amenities offered and one project has a computer room, a pool, a Jacuzzi and he didn’t recall if the new project or the existing Red Bluff Meadows had a pool.

 

Mr. Vetker stated that there was no pool at the current project; there are open areas, a computer lab, a tot lot, basketball court.  They are required to abide by the same rules as the other developer is; they will be very similar in amenities.

 

At this time a slide presentation was made by Mr. Vetker showing other four other projects that have been completed by the PAM Company.

 

Councilmember Avilla stated that he had spoken to the Principals of both schools located in the area of these projects and that neither one seemed to have a major concern over traffic.  He also spoke with couple members of the Planning Commission and spoke with them about density of housing and traffic issues.  They stated that traffic issues are discussed all the time, but in terms of affordable housing that has never been discussed.  He asked for clarification from Mr. Hayden on where the City was with affordable housing and the issue of density.

 

Mr. Hayden stated that the last time he checked with Rural Development there was a waiting list for affordable housing.  As far as the densities, when the General Plan was adopted we made a statement to developers of what we thought was appropriate levels of development.  R-1 – 5 units an acre max, R-2 - 10 units, R-3  - 15 units an acre and R-4 - 20 units per acre.   There is a policy in the Housing Element of the General Plan to promote affordable housing, for obvious reasons. 

 

Councilmember Avilla questioned what the highest density has been that the City has allowed.

 

Mr. Hayden stated that he wasn’t sure; he would have to go back and look, but possibly Ellison Apartments.

 

Councilmember Avilla stated that then it’s possible to have 25 units per acre max.

 

Mr. Hayden stated that he didn’t believe the City had anything over 20 units, but the Government Code and developers have not asked for that and the City would have to grant a diversity bonus of 25% by State Law for any affordable housing.

 

Mayor Pro Tem Flynn stated that it was a shame to get adequate funding to maintain development, only for new development. 

 

Councilmember Houghton questioned Mr. Hayden about this type of rehab has gone on, is there any way to curtail this type of thing to put a stop to letting places get run down.

 

Mr. Hayden stated that the City could have a Housing Department that would have more oversight, we could become a Housing Agency to oversee these projects and seek grants our selves and have staff fulltime.  He believes that there was not sufficient staff at the grantee level and that it’s a funding issue.

 

Councilmember Houghton questioned Mr. Vetker of PAM Company if they have any projects that are in dire need of rehab.

 

Mr. Vetker stated that they have several projects that are coming upon need for rehab, but nothing in the state of Red Bluff Meadows.

 

Mayor Pro Tem Flynn asked Mr. Spann if he would like to speak.

 

Bill Spann stated that what he’s hearing is that there’s not enough money out there to go around to fund all the projects.  He appreciates the efforts that Ms. Grant has put into the PAM Company project.  The comment was made that if the funding isn’t obtained that you can give the money back, but his understanding is that there are penalties to giving the money back.  One developer has the advantage and that developer is them.  They have the funding and you can’t do the project with funding alone, you need tax credits.  He cautioned the City Council against supporting a project that the site plan presented id not have a pool or sauna, it barely had room for a basketball court.  He stated that his project did have wetlands issues at the end of Southridge if they were to extend Southridge, which they propose that the would have to be reported to the Army Corp of Engineers, but it is something that can be dealt with so there would be no delays.  He suggested that the Council take the bird in hand and chase the one in the bush next year.

 

Mayor Pro Tem Flynn questioned Mr. Spann what his odds of obtaining the grant would be.

 

Mr. Spann stated that it was above 90%; the HOME Program likes working with communities that have performed well in the past. 

 

Councilmember Avilla stated that the issue of success in terms of the funds, $500,000 he believed Mr. Spann had, he understands that it gives Mr. Spann’s group a head’s up, if you didn’t have it your group wouldn’t have that extra advantage, but that doesn’t mean the other group will be unsuccessful in obtaining funding.

 

Mr. Spann stated that he believes their project will receive the maximum points, when you have tied scores it goes to a tiebreaker.  The first tiebreaker is what’s called a qualified census tract and there are no qualified census tracks in Tehama County.

 

Councilmember Avilla stated that we are dealing with good viable people that can get their projects done, but what Mr. Spann is saying is that we have a problem if we pick the other project.

 

Mr. Spann stated that was correct.  If they don’t get the HOME funds they wouldn’t get the tax credits, they will have to give the RHS money back. 

 

Mr. McGlynn stated that the regulations on the tiebreaker are going to revisit the issue so those rules are going to change; just because they have their money doesn’t mean that Ms. Grant is not going to get the funding.  On Tuesday the HOME Partnership was awarded to PAM Companies and that gives them a leg up.  The bottom line is that no one can stand here and say that they are going to get the money, you have two good projects for funding, but there’s nothing new in this reconsideration today.  Action was taken under Government Code 54952.6, a Resolution that was adopted after a Public Hearing and he doesn’t think that it was legally appropriate.  In terms of what we’re doing here today it was to get some answers and he believed those questions had been answered.  His clients came to the Tuesday meeting, made their presentation and received a go ahead from the City Council.  The next morning they entered into a series of contracts to move this project forward.  They are committed to the project, they hear Thursday that it’s not going to be reconsidered than on Friday they hear it’s going to be reconsidered and at the same time they are trying to complete the application packet by the November 17th deadline.  To pull this out from them now is not appropriate and nothing had been presented at this meeting that says we made a mistake by going with this company.  Did point out that the minutes, even though they are not final, that some of the comments are incorrect and should be corrected.  The way it reads it make’s sound like I was saying that we didn’t have sewer and water, but we do, it’s the other project that doesn’t have it.

 

Susan Price, City Manager, stated that they could request the City Clerk to transcribe word for word.

 

Mayor Pro Tem Flynn stated that he feels more comfortable with the project now than when they first made the decision.

 

Mr. Spann responded that they could not make an application for tax credits without HOME Funding.  The HOME Funds are needed to complete their project and this project will cost more than past projects so clearly multiple sources are needed.  As far as changes to the regulations, the tax credit program is under the Internal Revenue Service and to suggest that changes will be made if highly unlikely.  The tax credit program does make changes every year, but they are small minor changes not major ones. 

 

Ms. Grant stated that she had received a letter from the Tax Credit Committee advising that there was going to be three meetings held to discuss the tiebreaker.  They want to create an even playing field and that they are going to change geographical information.  She further stated that she did call Jack Mayham at USDA in Davis, and that he stated that projects that have received notification of funds do have 2 years to use these funds.

 

Rick Crabtree, City Attorney, stated would that he respectfully disagree with Mr. McGlynn in terms of whether or not you can readdress it, I believe you can, whether or not it’s wise to is a decision for the City Council to make.  We retool policies made by the City Council all the time, the terms as to whether it’s a good idea falls on the City Council.

 

Mayor Pro Tem Flynn stated he didn’t have any other questions, he did not want to make a decision on being intimidated and that was not his intension.

 

Ms. Price questioned Mr. Crabtree whether or not he had a chance to review the contracts that Mr. McGlynn had presented.

 

Mr. Crabtree stated that he had reviewed very quickly the four contracts and that he couldn’t see where it was contingent on receiving any grant funds. 

 

Mr. McGlynn stated that it was not his intent to bully the City Council, but to make a point and that he didn’t receive notice that the City Council was considering reconsidering until late afternoon on Wednesday, they had to continue to work forward or they would not be able to complete the funding application by the 17th.

 

Councilmember Avilla question to Mr. Crabtree if the City Council changed their minds on this issue are they committed to the contracts.

 

Mr. Crabtree stated after a quick review of the contracts the best he can say is that it is an issue as to how damaged by reliance on the last resolution.

 

Mr. Spann stated that they had sent a letter to the City willing to indemnify the City against any lawsuits caused by their reconsideration of this issue.

 

Mr. McGlynn stated that he thought Mr. Spann’s last comment speaks volume of what’s going on.

 

Councilmember Stevens questioned Mr. Antone on the infill and the $250,000 that would be made available for infrastructure, with the Southside Neighborhood Study that indicates that we should be extending Vista Way to Montgomery, the Habitat for Humanity that’s coming in with 60 some odd homes over the course with a build out.  If that $250,000 is made available for that infrastructure how does that play against our needs for infrastructure in that area.

 

Mr. Antone stated that the overall score what is proposed in the Southside Neighborhood Study is extremely large and far-reaching and it runs approximately 20-25 years.  It’s hard to pinpoint that, there will be additional traffic, but you have to look at a project by project basis as the impacts are felt at those locations and the best that we can do is try and take the information provided in the Southside Neighborhood Study and then begin to look at the improvements that they are recommended in that study and then assign some level of how much needs to be done at these project as they begin to move forward. 

 

Councilmember Stevens stated that right now at the intersection of Kimball and South Jackson there is a 4-way stop and given the increase of traffic that this project will generate how much would it cost to signal that intersection.

 

Mr. Antone stated a typical signalization of that type of intersection is going to be a the neighborhood of $175,000. 

 

Councilmember Stevens questioned who would typically pay for that signal.

 

Mr. Antone stated that typically it’s paid out of Development Impact Fees or it’s paid by a developer or a large portion by a developer depending on what size of project.

 

Councilmember Stevens questioned if Kimball Crossing be paying into those Impact Fee that would offset those developments and if so what their share would be.

 

Mr. Antone stated that he did not have that information off the top of his head.

 

Councilmember Stevens stated that staff was asked to submit their comments on these projects and asked if staff had any additional comments to be made at this time, as the City Council would like to hear them.

 

No other staff comments were heard at this time.

 

Mr. Crabtree stated that PAM Company was right and that they entered into these contracts on the prior decision of the City Council and now the City Council changes course and chooses to go with the competing project.  PAM would have an obligation under the law to take all reasonable steps to mitigate damages they may have because of entering into these four contracts, so it wouldn’t be just the City or someone on behalf of the City to indemnify the City, PAM Company would have to do everything they can to get out of the contracts, it wouldn’t be the end of the story as far as the contracts and damages.

 

M/S/C Houghton, Flynn to move that the City Council stay with the original recommendation of PAM Company.

 

Mayor Pro Tem called for any additional comments.

 

Councilmember Avilla stated that he thought that any concerns that he had prior to this meeting had been addressed.  He wished both groups could be funded and he thought it went back to Mr. Hayden’s letter stating that it’s too bad that both projects couldn’t be funded, as they are both good projects.  This has been the hardest thing since he has been on the City Council to understand and maybe it takes more preparation on his part and he’s will to do that to represent the citizens of the City of Red Bluff.

 

Councilmember Stevens stated that the concern of all Councilmembers is to do the best for the citizens of the City of Red Bluff.  Those are the people that will be living in either of those projects.  What he has to look at is what type of project does the most for the community in terms of setting the bar for other projects within the City.  If we were a community that were more closely at its maximum level than more units on a smaller parcel is what you have to live with, but we have some very large parcels in Red Bluff that doesn’t put people on top of people, we’re always looking at when we develop lots that neighbors are not on top of each other.  Mr. Spann’s project was willing to put additional amenities into his project that weren’t required, but added to the quality of life and that is why he voted for that project last Tuesday and he will continue to support Mr. Spann’s project.

 

Councilmember Houghton stated that he voted against revisiting this as he felt they were gone over last Tuesday, he understands that there were some concerns with that, but once you know the facts of what they’re doing, that they were asked by the FDA to come in and take over the project then we’ve got the answers to our questions and they are both great project but last Tuesday he voted for the PAM Project and he will remain with the PAM Project tonight.

 

Mayor Pro Tem Flynn stated that he wished both projected could be funded and that this has been an eye opener for the Council and to staff as far as information availability and the fact to bring it back and listen to it again, but we have to make a decision and he was ready to call for a vote on the motion.

 

Councilmember Avilla asked for the motion to be restated.

 

M/S/C Houghton, Flynn that the City Council will stay with the original decision of last Tuesday to continue to support the PAM Project.

 

AYES:  Councilmembers:  Avilla, Flynn and Houghton

NOES:  Councilmember: Stevens

ABSENT OR NOT VOTING: Mayor Hancock (absent – excused)

 

There being no further business at 5:45 p.m. Mayor Pro Tem Flynn adjourned the meeting until November 18, 2003 at 7:00 p.m., in the Red Bluff City Council Chambers.

 

                   S/B Forrest Flynn

                                                                                         Mayor Pro Tem

 

ATTEST:

 

S/B Gloria Shepherd

City Clerk